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28/01/2018, 21:07
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bevolkingsregisters Huise (Zingem)
Good afternoon,
In order to go on my genealogy researches, I need to see the population register (bevolkingsregister) of Huise (Zingem) of 1910 and also perhaps 1900, 1920 and 1930. But these documents are less than 120 years old. Is it possible to obtain an authorization to see them? Where have I to write? With which arguments?
Thanks for your help.
Nelly
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28/01/2018, 23:41 (Dit bericht is het laatst bewerkt op 02/02/2018 om 00:05 door Nand.)
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RE: bevolkingsregisters Huise (Zingem)
I presume you know the difference between (1) the "bevolkingsregister" containing the records of where people have lived, where they came from and where they moved to and (2) the "burgerlijke stand" which is the registry of births, deaths and marriages. This is important because the register access rules are different.

In order to get access to the "bevolkingsregister" records you will need the authorization from a first degree relative of the concerned person (child, sibling) or the authorization from the mayor of Zingem.

You could try to get in touch with the township of Zingem using the contact data on their web site.
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01/02/2018, 22:01
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RE: bevolkingsregisters Huise (Zingem)
Good afternoon,
I'm really speaking about "bevolkingsregister".
I reached the township of Zingem and they said I need authorization from the "rechtbank" of Gent.
I'm interested in the informations concerning the great-great-grand-mother of my husband and her children. Do I have to prove the link between her and my husband? Does he have to write for me an authorization?
I don't speak Dutch. Can I write in French?
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01/02/2018, 23:26
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RE: bevolkingsregisters Huise (Zingem)
If Zingem told you you need the authorisation from the rechtbank (rechtbank van eerste aanleg / sectie familierechtbank) of Gent, that means they understood you want to consult births, deaths and marriage records that are less than 100 years old. Number 2 in my previous reply.

Let's start all over again. What are you looking for? I need names (a few will do to start with), dates and the type of information you are looking for.
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08/02/2018, 22:35
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RE: bevolkingsregisters Huise (Zingem)
I guess that I was misunderstood. As I don't speak Dutch, it isn't so easy to communicate! I'll ask again.

I want to know when and where the great-great-grand-mother of my husband died. Her name was Virginie DE MEULEMEESTER. She was born on the 24th of May 1824 in Olsene. Thanks of the marriage certificate of one of her sons, I know that she was living in Huise in 1900 (76 years old).
She didn't die in Huise between 1900 and 1915, nor between 1900 and 1910 in all neighbouring towns.
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08/02/2018, 23:07
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RE: bevolkingsregisters Huise (Zingem)
Most birth-marriage-death records can be consulted on-line.
For the registers between 1600 and 1910 you can use the search engine on the web site of the Belgian State Archives where you can select English as interface language.

For records after 1910 you will need the authorisation of the "familierechtbank" of the concerned district.

But let us first try and see how far we can go. We will need the surnames of both Virginie and her husband. Is "De Meulemeester" her maiden name or is that her husband's name? We will need both names to eliminate false positives when searching.
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09/02/2018, 22:00
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RE: bevolkingsregisters Huise (Zingem)
Hi,
I've already consulted these on-line records. That's how I can say that I didn't find any death certificate for Virginie De Meulemeester (I mean the one I'm looking for, because she had homonyms) in neighbouring towns.

Virginie DE MEULEMEESTER was born in Olsene on the 24th of May 1824. She's the daughter of Petrus Antonius DE MEULEMEESTER and Maria Joanna DERAEDT. She married Joannes Baptist COTTENS on the 31st of January 1949 in Olsene. (Jean Baptiste Cottens is widower of Melanie D'hondt.)
They had 9 children together :
- Paulina Cottens, born on the 16th of January 1850 in Zulte. Was living in Kruishoutem in 1878/1879 with her husband Augustus Deloof.
- Camile Cottens, born on the 26th of June 1851 in Zulte.
- Yvon Cottens, born on the 31st of October 1853 in Zulte. Got married to Maria De Boever on the 21st of June 1900 in Huise.
- August Joannes Cottens, born on the 20th of Avril 1856 in Zulte.
- Gustave Cottens, born on the 7th of October 1858 in Zulte. Got married to Marie Rosalie Nachtergaele on the 17th of January 1900 in Eine. Then was living in Eine.
- Ceril Cornil Cottens, born on the 19th of October 1860 in Zulte. Died on the 2nd of March 1884 in Wannegem-Lede.
- Marie Silvie Cottens, born on the 2nd of August 1862 in Zulte. Got married to Ivo Vandenberghe (or Vanderberghe).
- Jules Cottens, born on the 9th of May 1865 in Zulte. Got married to Maria Emma Bettens on the 22nd of July 1897 in Huise. Was still living in Huise in 1905.
- Marie Romanie Cottens (great-grand-mother of my husband), born on the 20th of February 1868 in Zulte. Got married to Joannes Francies Richardus De Wever on the 18th of May 1895 in Huise. Then was living in Oycke then went to Arseele between 1907 and 1909. Went to France in 1912. Died in 1946 in France. On her death certificate, she's said daughter of Melanie (and not Virginie) De Meulemeester.

Joannes Baptist Cottens died on the 17th May 1870 in Zulte.

Thanks to death or marriage certificates of her children, I know that Virginie was living in Wannegem-Lede in 1884 and in Huise in 1897 and in 1900.




(08/02/2018 23:07)Nand schreef:  Most birth-marriage-death records can be consulted on-line.
For the registers between 1600 and 1910 you can use the search engine on the web site of the Belgian State Archives where you can select English as interface language.

For records after 1910 you will need the authorisation of the "familierechtbank" of the concerned district.

But let us first try and see how far we can go. We will need the surnames of both Virginie and her husband. Is "De Meulemeester" her maiden name or is that her husband's name? We will need both names to eliminate false positives when searching.
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10/02/2018, 14:07
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RE: bevolkingsregisters Huise (Zingem)
I can only confirm your findings and I have found no additional information. The marriage record of Cottens - Nachtergaele (17-JAN-1900) clearly mentions that Virginie was alive and living in Huise at that time.

Since we cannot find a record of her death before the end of 1910, this seems to indicate that Virginie either (1) died after 1910 or (2) moved to another township. The latter being very unlikely because she already moved from Zulte to Huise after her husband's death.

Birth-Marriage-Death (BMD) records are being released in chunks of 10 years. So you will have to wait until 2020 before the 1901-1910 records will be available.

Before considering taking any further steps which will require getting the necessary authorisations from the concerned legal instances, you really should ask yourself if the date of death of Virginie is really that important for your research? You were able to reconstruct her family, which is the most difficult part. So, maybe a missing date won't be a problem for you. It might be more interesting to find out who the descendants are of her nine children. Maybe one of them is also doing research for his or her family tree? Tools like Google or Facebook might offer some help with this.
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